hey this one’s not as bad, they don’t keep yelling at each other and speaking at the same time
Kids are not medically transitioning.. they’re social transitioning…
The brainscan thing is only a generality, not an absolute. While the mind is a product of the brain, thoughts are not written on your neurons in a language we can understand. In any case, I suspect that the studies that supposedly show mass detransitions include any type of detransition, including going off hormones because its costly or because detransitioning is the only way you can get a job in your town.
Wtf are these bot ahh comments 😭
The problem with the brain scan argument is that the studies regarding brain scans are still in their relative infancy. So, while yes it would be great to get to a point where we could confirm through brain scans, and I'm sure most trans people would be cool with that if we got to that point technologically, fact is we aren't there yet.
Genuine question: What is "Gender"? For the amount of discussion about this topic, I don't know why this term is never properly defined. It's literally the most important part of a discussion to make sure we have the same understanding of the words we are using.
Who cares if your an adult and go through the proccess just dont do it to kids.
As a kid, I don’t think kids should be able to make decisions that change their whole life trajectory
13% of people might detransition, the issue is that people assume the reason they do this is because they REGRET their choice to transition. That isn't accurate. It may be accurate in 2% of cases, but usually it's because of societial pressure, lack of funds for medical appointments and hormone treatments, etc. Almost 90 percent of those people who detransition go on to fully transition later. It's more like people have to pause or backtrack their transition in order to appease parents, keep their job, be able to afford the medical care needed, and so on.
The 13% includes trans people who stop HRT. That doesn't make them less trans, it doesn't mean they're detransitioning, but they are included in the statistic.
It's weird to say that you can objectively see a difference in brain scans, but then not agree that this can be a means for diagnosis.
How do you do a brain scan to say someone is straight? Bro has kindergarten logic. Maybe we can identify that in a "brain scan" but we can't even do "brain scans" for most things like ADHD at this point in medical technology. I hate these bad faith, at best, arguments.
Very dangerous to blindly trust people who profit off your treatment
This idea that kids are born in the wrong body is a very Gnostic idea.
He's deflecting on the brain scan studies because all of that research is completely inconclusive.
I’ve never met a trans person who did not know he/she was trans from earliest memory. Typically as a toddler, when they became aware of what gender was. Furthermore, not everyone’s sense of gender is strictly binary.
Person 1: "Here's a medically confirmed fact." Person 2: "It's not true." Person 1: "Yes it is. I can cite the proof." Person 2: "No, I won't accept the evidence." Bruh... is this what it's come to?
About 13% reported detransitioning at some point. However, 82.5% of those who detransitioned later re-transitioned. Main reasons for detransition: external pressures (family, employment, discrimination), not identity change. lol 0.13 * (1-0.825) = 0.02275 that study has just 2% people who de-transitioned, not 13%
Imagine burdening yourself with wanting to "objectively measure" why starngers want to live their lives the way they do.
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